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<b>To:</b> Davis, Bill (CS) <Bill.Davis@cs.ny.gov>; NCASG Surveys (dhr_ncasg_survey_list@admws.idaho.gov) <dhr_ncasg_survey_list@admws.idaho.gov><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [NCASG] NCASG: Dropping College Degree for Various Professional Positions</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">We have no mandate yet although there are discussions in both our legislature and the administration. We actively advocate with our hiring managers to include work experience only options in lieu of or in addition to options that include
postsecondary degrees. Since you are doing this research you probably have run across both of these resources but for others who may not have the 2017 article “Dismissed by degrees”
<a href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/XEv2Czpz4XUEQBEPH4IjEL?domain=urldefense.com">
published by the Harvard Business School</a> originally coined the term “degree inflation” and it's probably the genesis for many of these efforts. More recently the same group published the
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emerging degree reset.</a></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Davis, Bill (CS) <Bill.Davis@cs.ny.gov> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 13, 2023 3:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> NCASG Surveys (dhr_ncasg_survey_list@admws.idaho.gov) <dhr_ncasg_survey_list@admws.idaho.gov><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [NCASG] NCASG: Dropping College Degree for Various Professional Positions</p>
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a private sector trend as states, including <a href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/M2_2CJ6xKQUl3zl4upWYBo?domain=urldefense.com">
Pennsylvania</a> (click on link for Executive Order) and Maryland, have removed four-year degree requirements for thousands of jobs.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The State of New York is conducting a review of its titles to determine those where a degree can be an alternative requirement. We would appreciate your sharing anything that
your state is doing to have an experience pathway for careers typically requiring a degree. Please respond to my email at
<a href="mailto:Bill.Davis@cs.ny.gov">Bill.Davis@cs.ny.gov</a> by 3/31/2023.</span></p>
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