From RFaucher at hollandhart.com Mon Feb 1 12:31:55 2021 From: RFaucher at hollandhart.com (Robert Faucher) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 19:31:55 +0000 Subject: [CLBS] This Friday's Judges' Panel Message-ID: <9dcb9c5906fb43eabe0f490392fa9b2f@VHHEXMB01.hollandhart.com> Colleagues, At the annual meeting of the Commercial Law and Bankruptcy Section of the Idaho State Bar, taking place this Friday, February 5, five judges will be participating in our judges' panel: * Judge Hillen (Idaho) * Chief Judge Holt (Eastern District of Washington) * Chief Judge Hursh (Montana) * Chief Judge Meier (Idaho) * Judge Pappas (Idaho) You will have the opportunity to pose questions to the judges. Accordingly, please give some thought as to what questions you wish to pose to the judges. I will be moderating. If you prefer to put me on the hot seat, send your questions to me and I'll add them to my list. Thanks. We're looking forward to the event and hope you can join us. There's still time to sign up if you haven't managed it yet: https://isb.idaho.gov/events/event/39th-annual-commercial-law-and-bankruptcy-seminar-live-webcast/ Bob Robert A. Faucher Holland & Hart LLP 800 W. Main St., Suite 1750 Boise, ID 83702 Phone (208) 383-3941 (dd) (208) 283-6781 (m) Fax (208) 343-8869 E-Mail: rfaucher at hollandhart.com [cid:image001.gif at 01D6F895.71A98940] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message is confidential and may be privileged. If you believe that this email has been sent to you in error, please reply to the sender that you received the message in error; then please delete this e-mail. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I thought it would be helpful to have some background on the Commercial Law & Bankruptcy Section of the Idaho State Bar, which I am sure you will be working with in the future. Idaho formed one of the very first bankruptcy sections of the State Bar in 1982. Senior Judge Jim D. Pappas, Larry Prince, and I are among the remaining practitioners who formed the section at the annual bar meeting in Sun Valley that year. We have always had very successful winter seminar, and have been able to attract "world class" judges, practitioners, and professors. For example, Hon. Gene Wedoff has been out to Idaho at least half a dozen times, as well as Hon. Gregg Zive, Hon. Chris Klein, etc. In normal times, the location of the annual seminar rotates between Coeur d'Alene, McCall, which is where it started, and Boise, with occasional forays into eastern Idaho. As you probably are aware, Hon. Jim D. Pappas, Hon. Joe Meier, and retired Hon. Terry Myers, have taught the Boise bankruptcy course, as a team. All of our judges have been extremely active in the section, which also maintains a listserve discussion group that you may wish to join: clbs at adminws.idaho.gov I thought this would be a good opportunity to introduce you to the Judges, including our new judge, Hon. Noah Hillen, who grew up in my office-his mother has been my Chapter 7 assistant since 1984, and his sister, Naomi, works in my Chapter 7 office, as well. Anyway, if you end up traveling north towards Schweitzer ski resort or Priest Lake this spring, give me some advance notice, and perhaps let's have lunch or coffee sometime. Thanks. Very truly yours, Ford Elsaesser Attorney at Law FE/ll [cid:image001.png at 01D6FAF4.B46ACA30]Established 1979 Elsaesser Anderson, Chtd. P. O. 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If so, that's a game changer and I like it. -----Original Message----- From: CLBS [mailto:clbs-bounces at admws.idaho.gov] On Behalf Of Ford Elsaesser Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 2:05 PM To: Bankruptcy Section News group Subject: [CLBS] cancel last email _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs From grewal at ghslawoffice.com Thu Feb 4 17:30:35 2021 From: grewal at ghslawoffice.com (grewal at ghslawoffice.com) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:30:35 -0800 Subject: [CLBS] Removal From List Serve Message-ID: <2854001d6fb56$1f93d6b0$5ebb8410$@ghslawoffice.com> Please remove me from the list serve as I am retiring effective immediately. I will miss the wonderful comradery I have enjoyed but it is time for me to make some changes. Sincerely, Savi Grewal LAW OFFICES OF SAVI GREWAL PO Box 3013 Coeur d?Alene, Idaho 83816-3013 Tel: 208-765-9404 Fax: 208-777-2624 Email: grewal at ghslawoffice.com NOTICE: THIS ELECTRONIC TRANSMISSION, AND/OR THE DOCUMENTS ACCOMPANYING IT, MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, BELONGING TO THE SENDER, THAT IS PROTECTED BY THE ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS PRIVACY ACT, 18 U.S.C. ?? 2510 AND 2521 AND MAY BE LEGALLY PRIVILEGED. THIS MESSAGE, AND ANY ASSOCIATED FILES, ARE INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE PERSONS AND/OR ENTITIES TO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED. THE INFORMATION TRANSMITTED IS CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR PROTECTED BY A LEGAL PRIVILEGE OR AS ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. ANY REVIEW, COPYING, PRINTING, DISCLOSURE, DISTRIBUTION, OR ANY OTHER USE, IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. IF YOU ARE THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE E-MAIL ADDRESS BEING UTILIZED IS SECURE AND THAT THERE WILL NOT BE A WAIVER OF THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE OR BREACH OF DUTY OF CONFIDENTIALITY BY THE SENDER?S CORRESPONDENCE TO THAT E-MAIL ADDRESS. IF THIS TRANSMISSION IS NOT INTENDED FOR YOU, OR YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU RECEIVED IT IN ERROR, PLEASE DELETE THE COPY YOU RECEIVED AND CONTACT THE SENDER FOR FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS AT 208-765-9404, THANK YOU. From dbc at dbclarklaw.com Thu Feb 4 18:19:33 2021 From: dbc at dbclarklaw.com (dbc dbclarklaw.com) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 01:19:33 +0000 Subject: [CLBS] Removal From List Serve In-Reply-To: <2854001d6fb56$1f93d6b0$5ebb8410$@ghslawoffice.com> References: <2854001d6fb56$1f93d6b0$5ebb8410$@ghslawoffice.com> Message-ID: We'll miss you! D. Blair Clark LAW OFFICES OF D. BLAIR CLARK PC 967 E. Parkcenter Blvd., #282 Boise, ID 83706 Phone: 208-475-2050 Fax: 208-475-2055 Cel: 208-863-2505 -----Original Message----- From: CLBS On Behalf Of grewal at ghslawoffice.com Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 5:31 PM To: 'Bankruptcy list' Subject: [CLBS] Removal From List Serve Please remove me from the list serve as I am retiring effective immediately. I will miss the wonderful comradery I have enjoyed but it is time for me to make some changes. Sincerely, Savi Grewal LAW OFFICES OF SAVI GREWAL PO Box 3013 Coeur d'Alene, Idaho 83816-3013 Tel: 208-765-9404 Fax: 208-777-2624 Email: grewal at ghslawoffice.com NOTICE: THIS ELECTRONIC TRANSMISSION, AND/OR THE DOCUMENTS ACCOMPANYING IT, MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, BELONGING TO THE SENDER, THAT IS PROTECTED BY THE ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS PRIVACY ACT, 18 U.S.C. ?? 2510 AND 2521 AND MAY BE LEGALLY PRIVILEGED. THIS MESSAGE, AND ANY ASSOCIATED FILES, ARE INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE PERSONS AND/OR ENTITIES TO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED. THE INFORMATION TRANSMITTED IS CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR PROTECTED BY A LEGAL PRIVILEGE OR AS ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. ANY REVIEW, COPYING, PRINTING, DISCLOSURE, DISTRIBUTION, OR ANY OTHER USE, IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. IF YOU ARE THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE E-MAIL ADDRESS BEING UTILIZED IS SECURE AND THAT THERE WILL NOT BE A WAIVER OF THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE OR BREACH OF DUTY OF CONFIDENTIALITY BY THE SENDER'S CORRESPONDENCE TO THAT E-MAIL ADDRESS. IF THIS TRANSMISSION IS NOT INTENDED FOR YOU, OR YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU RECEIVED IT IN ERROR, PLEASE DELETE THE COPY YOU RECEIVED AND CONTACT THE SENDER FOR FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS AT 208-765-9404, THANK YOU. _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs From bartgreen at cableone.net Fri Feb 5 07:10:32 2021 From: bartgreen at cableone.net (Bart Green) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 09:10:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: [CLBS] Fwd: Removal From List Serve In-Reply-To: <1374222558.125573200.1612534040616.JavaMail.zimbra@cableone.net> References: <2854001d6fb56$1f93d6b0$5ebb8410$@ghslawoffice.com> <1374222558.125573200.1612534040616.JavaMail.zimbra@cableone.net> Message-ID: <273890627.125587919.1612534232989.JavaMail.zimbra@cableone.net> ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Bart Green" To: "dbc dbclarklaw.com" Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 7:07:20 AM Subject: Re: [CLBS] Removal From List Serve Dear Savi, We wish you the best of luck and hope that you are able to truly enjoy retirement. We have all enjoyed having you as a friendly and professional member of the bankruptcy bar, as well as having benefited from the insights that you have shared with us as a skilled practitioner over the years. Very truly yours, J. Bart Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "dbc dbclarklaw.com" To: "grewal" , "CLBS" Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 6:19:33 PM Subject: Re: [CLBS] Removal From List Serve We'll miss you! D. Blair Clark LAW OFFICES OF D. BLAIR CLARK PC 967 E. Parkcenter Blvd., #282 Boise, ID 83706 Phone: 208-475-2050 Fax: 208-475-2055 Cel: 208-863-2505 -----Original Message----- From: CLBS On Behalf Of grewal at ghslawoffice.com Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 5:31 PM To: 'Bankruptcy list' Subject: [CLBS] Removal From List Serve Please remove me from the list serve as I am retiring effective immediately. I will miss the wonderful comradery I have enjoyed but it is time for me to make some changes. Sincerely, Savi Grewal LAW OFFICES OF SAVI GREWAL PO Box 3013 Coeur d'Alene, Idaho 83816-3013 Tel: 208-765-9404 Fax: 208-777-2624 Email: grewal at ghslawoffice.com NOTICE: THIS ELECTRONIC TRANSMISSION, AND/OR THE DOCUMENTS ACCOMPANYING IT, MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, BELONGING TO THE SENDER, THAT IS PROTECTED BY THE ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS PRIVACY ACT, 18 U.S.C. ?? 2510 AND 2521 AND MAY BE LEGALLY PRIVILEGED. THIS MESSAGE, AND ANY ASSOCIATED FILES, ARE INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE PERSONS AND/OR ENTITIES TO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED. THE INFORMATION TRANSMITTED IS CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR PROTECTED BY A LEGAL PRIVILEGE OR AS ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. ANY REVIEW, COPYING, PRINTING, DISCLOSURE, DISTRIBUTION, OR ANY OTHER USE, IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. IF YOU ARE THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE E-MAIL ADDRESS BEING UTILIZED IS SECURE AND THAT THERE WILL NOT BE A WAIVER OF THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE OR BREACH OF DUTY OF CONFIDENTIALITY BY THE SENDER'S CORRESPONDENCE TO THAT E-MAIL ADDRESS. IF THIS TRANSMISSION IS NOT INTENDED FOR YOU, OR YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU RECEIVED IT IN ERROR, PLEASE DELETE THE COPY YOU RECEIVED AND CONTACT THE SENDER FOR FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS AT 208-765-9404, THANK YOU. _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs From dbc at dbclarklaw.com Wed Feb 10 17:19:19 2021 From: dbc at dbclarklaw.com (dbc dbclarklaw.com) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 00:19:19 +0000 Subject: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We've checked out all of the suggestions and have decided to go with Cincompass. Thanks to everybody for their recommendations. It's been really interesting. D. Blair Clark LAW OFFICES OF D. BLAIR CLARK PC 967 E. Parkcenter Blvd., #282 Boise, ID 83706 Phone: 208-475-2050 Fax: 208-475-2055 Cel: 208-863-2505 -----Original Message----- From: dbc dbclarklaw.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 11:25 AM To: Laura Burri ; CLBS at admws.idaho.gov Subject: RE: Bankruptcy soft wear Me too! It's getting frustrating. D. Blair Clark LAW OFFICES OF D. BLAIR CLARK PC 967 E. Parkcenter Blvd., #282 Boise, ID 83706 Phone: 208-475-2050 Fax: 208-475-2055 Cel: 208-863-2505 -----Original Message----- From: CLBS On Behalf Of Laura Burri Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:49 AM To: CLBS at admws.idaho.gov Subject: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear Hello - I would like some input from debtor's counsel on what softwear they use. I have used Best Case for many years. However, I just got my renewal and the price just keeps going up. Does anyone use a different service for preparing bankruptcy schedules? What are your thoughts/recommendations? Thanks. Laura E. Burri Attorney at Law Morrow & Fischer, PLLC 332 N Broadmore Way, Ste 102 Nampa, Idaho 83687 Telephone: (208) 475-2200 Fax: (208) 475-2201 Email: lburri at morrowfischer.com _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs From paul at idbankruptcylaw.com Sat Feb 13 18:09:07 2021 From: paul at idbankruptcylaw.com (Paul Ross) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 18:09:07 -0700 Subject: [CLBS] Signature Pages Message-ID: Dear Listserv, As a sort of informal survey, would you mind responding to me directly (rather than the entire listserv). Do you keep all physical copies of every document signed? Do you only keep physical signature pages of those documents? Do you keep any physical signature pages? Do you do some sort of electronic signing? I promise I am not trying to tattle. We just want to see what current practice is in the district. Paul -- Idaho Bankruptcy Law T: (208) 219-7997 F: (208) 416-6996 This communication is intended for the party above. If this e-mail has been sent to you by mistake, please notify me immediately. This information is private and is confidential and unauthorized use can impose penalties and liabilities. A client-attorney relationship is not created without a signed agreement and should not be construed as legal advice without such an agreement. From bartgreen at cableone.net Tue Feb 16 08:33:39 2021 From: bartgreen at cableone.net (Bart Green) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:33:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [CLBS] Signature Pages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1540657606.181540976.1613489619636.JavaMail.zimbra@cableone.net> Paul, I make a practice of keeping a hard copy of all documents that are signed, not just the signature pages, for a period of five years from the date the case is closed or representation of a client is concluded. So, for instance, in a Chapter 13 case that runs for 60 months, that means keeping the documents for at least 10 years, again five years from the date the case closes. Ethically, I think that the I.S.B. rules require that we keep a client's file for five years from the date of our last representation of them. I suppose people could scan the documents, or generate a PDF and then just save the signature pages, but if someone were to do that, and if an issue were to subsequently arise, then how do you prove that the digital copy is what they actually signed? I think that keeping the original hard copy of the documents signed is the more prudent practice. I know that it is not fun having to keep that large a footprint of real estate for storage space for client documents, but I think that is what is required of us as lawyers. Sincerely, Bart Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Ross" To: "CLBS" Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 6:09:07 PM Subject: [CLBS] Signature Pages Dear Listserv, As a sort of informal survey, would you mind responding to me directly (rather than the entire listserv). Do you keep all physical copies of every document signed? Do you only keep physical signature pages of those documents? Do you keep any physical signature pages? Do you do some sort of electronic signing? I promise I am not trying to tattle. We just want to see what current practice is in the district. Paul -- Idaho Bankruptcy Law T: (208) 219-7997 F: (208) 416-6996 This communication is intended for the party above. If this e-mail has been sent to you by mistake, please notify me immediately. This information is private and is confidential and unauthorized use can impose penalties and liabilities. A client-attorney relationship is not created without a signed agreement and should not be construed as legal advice without such an agreement. _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs From dbc at dbclarklaw.com Tue Feb 16 08:47:36 2021 From: dbc at dbclarklaw.com (dbc dbclarklaw.com) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 15:47:36 +0000 Subject: [CLBS] Signature Pages In-Reply-To: <1540657606.181540976.1613489619636.JavaMail.zimbra@cableone.net> References: <1540657606.181540976.1613489619636.JavaMail.zimbra@cableone.net> Message-ID: We keep everything they signed and their questionnaires/disclosures. We also scan them. Everything else is scanned and placed on our server with a cloud backup through Code42. We use the document management part of Practice Master as it ties into our Tabs3 system that we've used for probably 20 years +. So far so good. D. Blair Clark LAW OFFICES OF D. BLAIR CLARK PC 967 E. Parkcenter Blvd., #282 Boise, ID 83706 Phone: 208-475-2050 Fax: 208-475-2055 Cel: 208-863-2505 -----Original Message----- From: CLBS On Behalf Of Bart Green Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 8:34 AM To: Paul Ross Cc: CLBS Subject: Re: [CLBS] Signature Pages Paul, I make a practice of keeping a hard copy of all documents that are signed, not just the signature pages, for a period of five years from the date the case is closed or representation of a client is concluded. So, for instance, in a Chapter 13 case that runs for 60 months, that means keeping the documents for at least 10 years, again five years from the date the case closes. Ethically, I think that the I.S.B. rules require that we keep a client's file for five years from the date of our last representation of them. I suppose people could scan the documents, or generate a PDF and then just save the signature pages, but if someone were to do that, and if an issue were to subsequently arise, then how do you prove that the digital copy is what they actually signed? I think that keeping the original hard copy of the documents signed is the more prudent practice. I know that it is not fun having to keep that large a footprint of real estate for storage space for client documents, but I think that is what is required of us as lawyers. Sincerely, Bart Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Ross" To: "CLBS" Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 6:09:07 PM Subject: [CLBS] Signature Pages Dear Listserv, As a sort of informal survey, would you mind responding to me directly (rather than the entire listserv). Do you keep all physical copies of every document signed? Do you only keep physical signature pages of those documents? Do you keep any physical signature pages? Do you do some sort of electronic signing? I promise I am not trying to tattle. We just want to see what current practice is in the district. Paul -- Idaho Bankruptcy Law T: (208) 219-7997 F: (208) 416-6996 This communication is intended for the party above. If this e-mail has been sent to you by mistake, please notify me immediately. This information is private and is confidential and unauthorized use can impose penalties and liabilities. A client-attorney relationship is not created without a signed agreement and should not be construed as legal advice without such an agreement. _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs From dbc at dbclarklaw.com Sun Feb 21 16:44:57 2021 From: dbc at dbclarklaw.com (dbc dbclarklaw.com) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 23:44:57 +0000 Subject: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We tried out ALL of them that were referred and ended up with Cincompass. I forget who referred it but it's a LOT cheaper and looks like it'll work fine. It's also the least 'buggy.' D. Blair Clark LAW OFFICES OF D. BLAIR CLARK PC 967 E. Parkcenter Blvd., #282 Boise, ID 83706 Phone: 208-475-2050 Fax: 208-475-2055 Cel: 208-863-2505 -----Original Message----- From: CLBS On Behalf Of Laura Burri Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:49 AM To: CLBS at admws.idaho.gov Subject: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear Hello - I would like some input from debtor's counsel on what softwear they use. I have used Best Case for many years. However, I just got my renewal and the price just keeps going up. Does anyone use a different service for preparing bankruptcy schedules? What are your thoughts/recommendations? Thanks. Laura E. Burri Attorney at Law Morrow & Fischer, PLLC 332 N Broadmore Way, Ste 102 Nampa, Idaho 83687 Telephone: (208) 475-2200 Fax: (208) 475-2201 Email: lburri at morrowfischer.com _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs From PGeile at foleyfreeman.com Mon Feb 22 12:49:29 2021 From: PGeile at foleyfreeman.com (Patrick Geile) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 19:49:29 +0000 Subject: [CLBS] FW: March 3, 2021 Bankruptcy CLE Offered by Court In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good afternoon, Please review the attached flyer for a CLE presented on March 3rd. It will cover some new and exciting changes to the Code. Also don't forget the Bankruptcy basics CLE to be presented March 1st. Hope to see you all next week!! Patrick J. Geile Foley Freeman PLLC (208) 947-1563 From: Tecla Druffel Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:46 PM To: Patrick Geile Subject: Fwd: March 3, 2021 Bankruptcy CLE Offered by Court Patrick, Aloha from the Big Island! Can you put this information on the listserv for our members? I just received it from Crystal Hall at the Courts. Mahalo, Tecla Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Crystal Hall > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 9:40:02 AM To: Tecla Druffel > Subject: March 3, 2021 Bankruptcy CLE Offered by Court Tecla, Good afternoon. The Bankruptcy Court will be offering another free brown bag CLE on March 3, 2021 from noon to 1 p.m. via Zoom. Jeff Severson asked if you could please forward the attached PDF to the members of the Commercial Law and Bankruptcy Section of the Bar (as that section's Chair) so that they are aware of the program? We're trying to advertise it as widely as possible and would greatly appreciate your help in that regard. Please let me know if you need any additional information from me. Thanks, Crystal [cid:image001.jpg at 01D70916.95636A90] Crystal Hall Administrative Analyst U.S. Courts, District of Idaho (208) 334-1976 crystal_hall at id.uscourts.gov -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3648 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 354 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: March 3, 2021 Agenda.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 53252 bytes Desc: March 3, 2021 Agenda.pdf URL: From bartgreen at cableone.net Tue Feb 23 16:05:32 2021 From: bartgreen at cableone.net (Bart Green) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 18:05:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <327499844.217689220.1614121532109.JavaMail.zimbra@cableone.net> Laura and Blair, I was the one who recommended CINcompass. We have used it for several years and we are pleased with it. It is cloud based. It seems to be fast and free of lag time. It seems work instantaneously. My legal assistant agrees with that statement. I can, and my legal assistant can, use it from our respective homes, from the office or I can use it when I'm at my place in Sun Valley. In the early years CINcompass had a few bugs. But whenever an issue arose my legal assistant would call them, and they always answered the phone, and they have been very responsive and got the issue resolved in what I considered to be a timely manner. On another note, Blair mentioned that he has used Code42 for several years. I don't know what that is, and would be curious to learn more if he were share some additional information about it with the group. But we migrated our client files to the cloud after our server went down in late 2019. I had everything backed, up so data loss was not an issue. But I was weighing whether to buy another server or migrate to the cloud, and decided that cloud based services have been around long enough that I had a reasonably high level of confidence that they would be secure. I also liked the idea of being able to access everything from multiple locations, especially once the pandemic hit and working remotely became more attractive. First I tried Dropbox, and it was a total disaster. I could not recommend Dropbox to anyone. Next, I tried Microsoft's cloud services. I thought that it should seamlessly integrate with Office 365, I was wrong, and it too was a disaster. Neither of those services would accurately upload the client files. They didn't want to upload anything beyond a certain date/age. I have a lot of what I consider valuable intellectual property that I've built up in my forms directory over 32 years of practice. Dropbox was the worst and would deposit client documents into the wrong folders for the wrong clients. It was a mess to clean up, and then I had to delete it all off of Dropbox. Next, I tried Google's G Suite. I think that they recently changed the name. But Google G Suite worked like a charm where Microsoft and Dropbox did not. Google drive shows up in the file tree as if it were another local hard drive. The service has been very reliable and is reasonably priced. I also looked at Amazon web services "AWS", and it seemed to be too complicated for someone with a small office. I'm sure that it has also sorts of sophisticated services for larger enterprises, but I don't need those. So I passed on AWS after experimenting with it for a short time. Google has been great. I will also note that while Microsoft was one of the major victims of the recent Russian hack wherein the Russians got access to Microsoft's source code, Google was not hacked when all those other large companies were infiltrated. I'm sharing this information in case others are considering migrating to the cloud. It certainly helps reduce the amount of investment that you need to make in your on-site computer hardware. I hope that this is helpful to some of you. Sincerely, Bart Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "dbc dbclarklaw.com" To: "Laura Burri" , "CLBS" Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 4:44:57 PM Subject: Re: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear We tried out ALL of them that were referred and ended up with Cincompass. I forget who referred it but it's a LOT cheaper and looks like it'll work fine. It's also the least 'buggy.' D. Blair Clark LAW OFFICES OF D. BLAIR CLARK PC 967 E. Parkcenter Blvd., #282 Boise, ID 83706 Phone: 208-475-2050 Fax: 208-475-2055 Cel: 208-863-2505 -----Original Message----- From: CLBS On Behalf Of Laura Burri Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:49 AM To: CLBS at admws.idaho.gov Subject: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear Hello - I would like some input from debtor's counsel on what softwear they use. I have used Best Case for many years. However, I just got my renewal and the price just keeps going up. Does anyone use a different service for preparing bankruptcy schedules? What are your thoughts/recommendations? Thanks. Laura E. Burri Attorney at Law Morrow & Fischer, PLLC 332 N Broadmore Way, Ste 102 Nampa, Idaho 83687 Telephone: (208) 475-2200 Fax: (208) 475-2201 Email: lburri at morrowfischer.com _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs From lksmithlaw at yahoo.com Tue Feb 23 16:08:47 2021 From: lksmithlaw at yahoo.com (Leslie K Smith) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 23:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear In-Reply-To: <327499844.217689220.1614121532109.JavaMail.zimbra@cableone.net> References: <327499844.217689220.1614121532109.JavaMail.zimbra@cableone.net> Message-ID: <31317689.1812228.1614121727025@mail.yahoo.com> Please unsubscribe me.? Thanks.My email is LKSmithlaw at yahoo.com Leslie K.Smith, Attorney at LawLeslieSmith & Associates, LLC 1159 E.Iron Eagle Drive, Suite 170 P.O. Box605 Eagle, ID83616 (208)939-1107-Phone (888)701-7060-Fax LKSmithlaw at yahoo.com ISB#8965 ? On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 4:05:40 PM MST, Bart Green wrote: Laura and Blair, I was the one who recommended CINcompass. We have used it for several years and we are pleased with it. It is cloud based. It seems to be fast and free of lag time.? It seems work instantaneously.? My legal assistant agrees with that statement. I can, and my legal assistant can, use it from our respective homes, from the office or I can use it when I'm at my place in Sun Valley. In the early years CINcompass had a few bugs. But whenever an issue arose my legal assistant would call them, and they always answered the phone, and they have been very responsive and got the issue resolved in what I considered to be a timely manner. On another note, Blair mentioned that he has used Code42 for several years. I don't know what that is, and would be curious to learn more if he were share some additional information about it with the group. But we migrated our client files to the cloud after our server went down in late 2019. I had everything backed, up so data loss was not an issue. But I was weighing whether to buy another server or migrate to the cloud, and decided that cloud based services have been around long enough that I had a reasonably high level of confidence that they would be secure. I also liked the idea of being able to access everything from multiple locations, especially once the pandemic hit and working remotely became more attractive. First I tried Dropbox, and it was a total disaster. I could not recommend Dropbox to anyone. Next, I tried Microsoft's cloud services. I thought that it should seamlessly integrate with Office 365, I was wrong, and it too was a disaster. Neither of those services wou ld accurately upload the client files. They didn't want to upload anything beyond a certain date/age. I have a lot of what I consider valuable intellectual property that I've built up in my forms directory over 32 years of practice. Dropbox was the worst and would deposit client documents into the wrong folders for the wrong clients.? It was a mess to clean up, and then I had to delete it all off of Dropbox. Next, I tried Google's G Suite. I think that they recently changed the name. But Google G Suite worked like a charm where Microsoft and Dropbox did not. Google drive shows up in the file tree as if it were another local hard drive. The service has been very reliable and is reasonably priced. I also looked at Amazon web services "AWS", and it seemed to be too complicated for someone with a small office. I'm sure that it has also sorts of sophisticated services for larger enterprises, but I don't need those. So I passed on AWS after experimenting with it for a short time. Google h as been great. I will also note that while Microsoft was one of the major victims of the recent Russian hack wherein the Russians got access to Microsoft's source code, Google was not hacked when all those other large companies were infiltrated. I'm sharing this information in case others are considering migrating to the cloud. It certainly helps reduce the amount of investment that you need to make in your on-site computer hardware. I hope that this is helpful to some of you. Sincerely, Bart Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "dbc dbclarklaw.com" To: "Laura Burri" , "CLBS" Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 4:44:57 PM Subject: Re: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear We tried out ALL of them that were referred and ended up with Cincompass.? I forget who referred it but it's a LOT cheaper and looks like it'll work fine.? It's also the least 'buggy.'? D. Blair Clark LAW OFFICES OF D. BLAIR CLARK PC 967 E. Parkcenter Blvd., #282 Boise, ID 83706 Phone:? 208-475-2050 Fax:? 208-475-2055 Cel:? 208-863-2505 -----Original Message----- From: CLBS On Behalf Of Laura Burri Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:49 AM To: CLBS at admws.idaho.gov Subject: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear Hello - I would like some input from debtor's counsel on what softwear they use. I have used Best Case for many years. However, I just got my renewal and the price just keeps going up. Does anyone use a different service for preparing bankruptcy schedules? What are your thoughts/recommendations? Thanks. Laura E. Burri Attorney at Law Morrow & Fischer, PLLC 332 N Broadmore Way, Ste 102 Nampa, Idaho 83687 Telephone: (208) 475-2200 Fax: (208) 475-2201 Email: lburri at morrowfischer.com _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs From dbc at dbclarklaw.com Tue Feb 23 18:18:35 2021 From: dbc at dbclarklaw.com (dbc dbclarklaw.com) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 01:18:35 +0000 Subject: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear In-Reply-To: <327499844.217689220.1614121532109.JavaMail.zimbra@cableone.net> References: <327499844.217689220.1614121532109.JavaMail.zimbra@cableone.net> Message-ID: Code 42 is one of the main players in the cloud backup arena. We were looking for a cloud backup system; when we started doing 'paperless,' (which is "less paper," not "no paper") we were reading a lot of Ross Kodner's stuff when he was alive. So we built a stand-alone server (went from Server 2008 to 2012 to 2019) with mirrored drives, etc., AND a cloud backup. Looked at most all of the cloud backup systems and ran across "Crashplan.? I heartily recommend them. They have a system called simply "Code 42" for larger enterprises. But Crashplan is really simple to use and administer and does everything we need. It logs in either from the app on the server or through a secure website. And it's like $20 per month for the whole server, which is well over 600 gigabytes of data. What sells me on them more than just buying it, though, is their tech support. Those people WORK at it! I had to do some when I was in rehab in 2019 and did it all remotely with their assistance and they did great. Couple of weeks ago, I started getting errors that I wasn't getting a full backup so put in a request, and the tech guy found three OLD files that had been inadvertently moved in two cases and deleted in one, but I hadn't updated the file selection when I did that. He sent me a report that I had in my inbox like 7 AM the next day. Probably the best tech support I've worked with and it's all part of the subscription. Restoring files (yeah, I've had to do that a couple of times) is a snap. I heartily recommend this service. D. Blair Clark LAW OFFICES OF D. BLAIR CLARK PC 967 E. Parkcenter Blvd., #282 Boise, ID 83706 Phone: 208-475-2050 Fax: 208-475-2055 Cel: 208-863-2505 -----Original Message----- From: Bart Green Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 4:06 PM To: dbc dbclarklaw.com Cc: Laura Burri ; CLBS Subject: Re: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear Laura and Blair, I was the one who recommended CINcompass. We have used it for several years and we are pleased with it. It is cloud based. It seems to be fast and free of lag time. It seems work instantaneously. My legal assistant agrees with that statement. I can, and my legal assistant can, use it from our respective homes, from the office or I can use it when I'm at my place in Sun Valley. In the early years CINcompass had a few bugs. But whenever an issue arose my legal assistant would call them, and they always answered the phone, and they have been very responsive and got the issue resolved in what I considered to be a timely manner. On another note, Blair mentioned that he has used Code42 for several years. I don't know what that is, and would be curious to learn more if he were share some additional information about it with the group. But we migrated our client files to the cloud after our server went down in late 2019. I had everything backed, up so data loss was not an issue. But I was weighing whether to buy another server or migrate to the cloud, and decided that cloud based services have been around long enough that I had a reasonably high level of confidence that they would be secure. I also liked the idea of being able to access everything from multiple locations, especially once the pandemic hit and working remotely became more attractive. First I tried Dropbox, and it was a total disaster. I could not recommend Dropbox to anyone. Next, I tried Microsoft's cloud services. I thought that it should seamlessly integrate with Office 365, I was wrong, and it too was a disaster. Neither of those services would accurately upload the client files. They didn't want to upload anything beyond a certain date/age. I have a lot of what I consider valuable intellectual property that I've built up in my forms directory over 32 years of practice. Dropbox was the worst and would deposit client documents into the wrong folders for the wrong clients. It was a mess to clean up, and then I had to delete it all off of Dropbox. Next, I tried Google's G Suite. I think that they recently changed the name. But Google G Suite worked like a charm where Microsoft and Dropbox did not. Google drive shows up in the file tree as if it were another local hard drive. The service has been very reliable and is reasonably priced. I also looked at Amazon web services "AWS", and it seemed to be too complicated for someone with a small office. I'm sure that it has also sorts of sophisticated services for larger enterprises, but I don't need those. So I passed on AWS after experimenting with it for a short time. Google has been great. I will also note that while Microsoft was one of the major victims of the recent Russian hack wherein the Russians got access to Microsoft's source code, Google was not hacked when all those other large companies were infiltrated. I'm sharing this information in case others are considering migrating to the cloud. It certainly helps reduce the amount of investment that you need to make in your on-site computer hardware. I hope that this is helpful to some of you. Sincerely, Bart Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "dbc dbclarklaw.com" To: "Laura Burri" , "CLBS" Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 4:44:57 PM Subject: Re: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear We tried out ALL of them that were referred and ended up with Cincompass. I forget who referred it but it's a LOT cheaper and looks like it'll work fine. It's also the least 'buggy.' D. Blair Clark LAW OFFICES OF D. BLAIR CLARK PC 967 E. Parkcenter Blvd., #282 Boise, ID 83706 Phone: 208-475-2050 Fax: 208-475-2055 Cel: 208-863-2505 -----Original Message----- From: CLBS On Behalf Of Laura Burri Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:49 AM To: CLBS at admws.idaho.gov Subject: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear Hello - I would like some input from debtor's counsel on what softwear they use. I have used Best Case for many years. However, I just got my renewal and the price just keeps going up. Does anyone use a different service for preparing bankruptcy schedules? What are your thoughts/recommendations? Thanks. Laura E. Burri Attorney at Law Morrow & Fischer, PLLC 332 N Broadmore Way, Ste 102 Nampa, Idaho 83687 Telephone: (208) 475-2200 Fax: (208) 475-2201 Email: lburri at morrowfischer.com _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs From dbc at dbclarklaw.com Tue Feb 23 18:23:54 2021 From: dbc at dbclarklaw.com (dbc dbclarklaw.com) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 01:23:54 +0000 Subject: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear In-Reply-To: <327499844.217689220.1614121532109.JavaMail.zimbra@cableone.net> References: <327499844.217689220.1614121532109.JavaMail.zimbra@cableone.net> Message-ID: Bart, I forgot one thing--you mentioned the ease of getting all your stuff from the cloud. You can do the same thing with a standalone server and Remote PC. We decided that for us it makes the most sense. We use the Tabs3 accounting and practice management system and have for over 20 years, and it's NOT cloud-based. But we love it and it's less money than Clio or one of those. It does all our time and billing, practice management, document management, etc., and has been around a long LONG time. It started out with DOS so that'll give you an idea. We can't get to that on a cloud-based system, but Crashplan will back it all up continuously. D. Blair Clark LAW OFFICES OF D. BLAIR CLARK PC 967 E. Parkcenter Blvd., #282 Boise, ID 83706 Phone: 208-475-2050 Fax: 208-475-2055 Cel: 208-863-2505 -----Original Message----- From: Bart Green Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 4:06 PM To: dbc dbclarklaw.com Cc: Laura Burri ; CLBS Subject: Re: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear Laura and Blair, I was the one who recommended CINcompass. We have used it for several years and we are pleased with it. It is cloud based. It seems to be fast and free of lag time. It seems work instantaneously. My legal assistant agrees with that statement. I can, and my legal assistant can, use it from our respective homes, from the office or I can use it when I'm at my place in Sun Valley. In the early years CINcompass had a few bugs. But whenever an issue arose my legal assistant would call them, and they always answered the phone, and they have been very responsive and got the issue resolved in what I considered to be a timely manner. On another note, Blair mentioned that he has used Code42 for several years. I don't know what that is, and would be curious to learn more if he were share some additional information about it with the group. But we migrated our client files to the cloud after our server went down in late 2019. I had everything backed, up so data loss was not an issue. But I was weighing whether to buy another server or migrate to the cloud, and decided that cloud based services have been around long enough that I had a reasonably high level of confidence that they would be secure. I also liked the idea of being able to access everything from multiple locations, especially once the pandemic hit and working remotely became more attractive. First I tried Dropbox, and it was a total disaster. I could not recommend Dropbox to anyone. Next, I tried Microsoft's cloud services. I thought that it should seamlessly integrate with Office 365, I was wrong, and it too was a disaster. Neither of those services would accurately upload the client files. They didn't want to upload anything beyond a certain date/age. I have a lot of what I consider valuable intellectual property that I've built up in my forms directory over 32 years of practice. Dropbox was the worst and would deposit client documents into the wrong folders for the wrong clients. It was a mess to clean up, and then I had to delete it all off of Dropbox. Next, I tried Google's G Suite. I think that they recently changed the name. But Google G Suite worked like a charm where Microsoft and Dropbox did not. Google drive shows up in the file tree as if it were another local hard drive. The service has been very reliable and is reasonably priced. I also looked at Amazon web services "AWS", and it seemed to be too complicated for someone with a small office. I'm sure that it has also sorts of sophisticated services for larger enterprises, but I don't need those. So I passed on AWS after experimenting with it for a short time. Google has been great. I will also note that while Microsoft was one of the major victims of the recent Russian hack wherein the Russians got access to Microsoft's source code, Google was not hacked when all those other large companies were infiltrated. I'm sharing this information in case others are considering migrating to the cloud. It certainly helps reduce the amount of investment that you need to make in your on-site computer hardware. I hope that this is helpful to some of you. Sincerely, Bart Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "dbc dbclarklaw.com" To: "Laura Burri" , "CLBS" Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 4:44:57 PM Subject: Re: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear We tried out ALL of them that were referred and ended up with Cincompass. I forget who referred it but it's a LOT cheaper and looks like it'll work fine. It's also the least 'buggy.' D. Blair Clark LAW OFFICES OF D. BLAIR CLARK PC 967 E. Parkcenter Blvd., #282 Boise, ID 83706 Phone: 208-475-2050 Fax: 208-475-2055 Cel: 208-863-2505 -----Original Message----- From: CLBS On Behalf Of Laura Burri Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:49 AM To: CLBS at admws.idaho.gov Subject: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear Hello - I would like some input from debtor's counsel on what softwear they use. I have used Best Case for many years. However, I just got my renewal and the price just keeps going up. Does anyone use a different service for preparing bankruptcy schedules? What are your thoughts/recommendations? Thanks. Laura E. Burri Attorney at Law Morrow & Fischer, PLLC 332 N Broadmore Way, Ste 102 Nampa, Idaho 83687 Telephone: (208) 475-2200 Fax: (208) 475-2201 Email: lburri at morrowfischer.com _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs _______________________________________________ CLBS mailing list CLBS at admws.idaho.gov http://admws.idaho.gov/mailman/listinfo/clbs From bartgreen at cableone.net Wed Feb 24 10:51:47 2021 From: bartgreen at cableone.net (Bart Green) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 12:51:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear In-Reply-To: References: <327499844.217689220.1614121532109.JavaMail.zimbra@cableone.net> Message-ID: <1273261579.221461550.1614189107584.JavaMail.zimbra@cableone.net> Blair, Thanks for the information. I'm responding to you through the group because I assume I am not the only one who may benefit from your experience and insight with those computer programs. When I have a chance I will look into them. Thank you for sharing it. Sincerely, Bart Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "dbc dbclarklaw.com" To: "Bart Green" Cc: "Laura Burri" , "CLBS" Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 6:23:54 PM Subject: RE: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear Bart, I forgot one thing--you mentioned the ease of getting all your stuff from the cloud. You can do the same thing with a standalone server and Remote PC. We decided that for us it makes the most sense. We use the Tabs3 accounting and practice management system and have for over 20 years, and it's NOT cloud-based. But we love it and it's less money than Clio or one of those. It does all our time and billing, practice management, document management, etc., and has been around a long LONG time. It started out with DOS so that'll give you an idea. We can't get to that on a cloud-based system, but Crashplan will back it all up continuously. D. Blair Clark LAW OFFICES OF D. BLAIR CLARK PC 967 E. Parkcenter Blvd., #282 Boise, ID 83706 Phone: 208-475-2050 Fax: 208-475-2055 Cel: 208-863-2505 -----Original Message----- From: Bart Green Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 4:06 PM To: dbc dbclarklaw.com Cc: Laura Burri ; CLBS Subject: Re: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear Laura and Blair, I was the one who recommended CINcompass. We have used it for several years and we are pleased with it. It is cloud based. It seems to be fast and free of lag time. It seems work instantaneously. My legal assistant agrees with that statement. I can, and my legal assistant can, use it from our respective homes, from the office or I can use it when I'm at my place in Sun Valley. In the early years CINcompass had a few bugs. But whenever an issue arose my legal assistant would call them, and they always answered the phone, and they have been very responsive and got the issue resolved in what I considered to be a timely manner. On another note, Blair mentioned that he has used Code42 for several years. I don't know what that is, and would be curious to learn more if he were share some additional information about it with the group. But we migrated our client files to the cloud after our server went down in late 2019. I had everything backed, up so data loss was not an issue. But I was weighing whether to buy another server or migrate to the cloud, and decided that cloud based services have been around long enough that I had a reasonably high level of confidence that they would be secure. I also liked the idea of being able to access everything from multiple locations, especially once the pandemic hit and working remotely became more attractive. First I tried Dropbox, and it was a total disaster. I could not recommend Dropbox to anyone. Next, I tried Microsoft's cloud services. I thought that it should seamlessly integrate with Office 365, I was wrong, and it too was a disaster. Neither of those services would accurately upload the client files. They didn't want to upload anything beyond a certain date/age. I have a lot of what I consider valuable intellectual property that I've built up in my forms directory over 32 years of practice. Dropbox was the worst and would deposit client documents into the wrong folders for the wrong clients. It was a mess to clean up, and then I had to delete it all off of Dropbox. Next, I tried Google's G Suite. I think that they recently changed the name. But Google G Suite worked like a charm where Microsoft and Dropbox did not. Google drive shows up in the file tree as if it were another local hard drive. The service has been very reliable and is reasonably priced. I also looked at Amazon web services "AWS", and it seemed to be too complicated for someone with a small office. I'm sure that it has also sorts of sophisticated services for larger enterprises, but I don't need those. So I passed on AWS after experimenting with it for a short time. Google has been great. I will also note that while Microsoft was one of the major victims of the recent Russian hack wherein the Russians got access to Microsoft's source code, Google was not hacked when all those other large companies were infiltrated. I'm sharing this information in case others are considering migrating to the cloud. It certainly helps reduce the amount of investment that you need to make in your on-site computer hardware. I hope that this is helpful to some of you. Sincerely, Bart Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "dbc dbclarklaw.com" To: "Laura Burri" , "CLBS" Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 4:44:57 PM Subject: Re: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear We tried out ALL of them that were referred and ended up with Cincompass. I forget who referred it but it's a LOT cheaper and looks like it'll work fine. It's also the least 'buggy.' D. Blair Clark LAW OFFICES OF D. BLAIR CLARK PC 967 E. Parkcenter Blvd., #282 Boise, ID 83706 Phone: 208-475-2050 Fax: 208-475-2055 Cel: 208-863-2505 -----Original Message----- From: CLBS On Behalf Of Laura Burri Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:49 AM To: CLBS at admws.idaho.gov Subject: [CLBS] Bankruptcy soft wear Hello - I would like some input from debtor's counsel on what softwear they use. I have used Best Case for many years. However, I just got my renewal and the price just keeps going up. Does anyone use a different service for preparing bankruptcy schedules? What are your thoughts/recommendations? Thanks. Laura E. 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