[NCASG] [EXTERNAL] Re: NCASG: Dropping College Degree for Various Professional Positions

Mon Apr 24 07:56:17 MDT 2023

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Colorado is not doing this. I do not think it is even a topic for
consideration right now.

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On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 8:38 PM Bramonte, Guy [CSC] <Guy.Bramonte at csc.nj.gov>
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> Hello NCASG Colleagues,
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> The State of NJ has officially jumped on this bandwagon.  Our Governor
> recently signed Executive Order No. 327 to prioritize work experience and
> skills training over formal education (e.g., bachelor's degree) for some
> State job opportunities.  We are currently reviewing our title plan to
> determine the best way to implement this.
>
> Does anyone have a formal definition their agency uses for professional
> work experience?  Any information you can provide will be greatly
> appreciated.  Thank you.
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> Guy J. Bramonte
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> Hi Bill –
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>
>
> We have no mandate yet although there are discussions in both our
> legislature and the administration. We actively advocate with our hiring
> managers to include work experience only options in lieu of or in addition
> to options that include postsecondary degrees. Since you are doing this
> research you probably have run across both of these resources but for
> others who may not have the 2017 article “Dismissed by degrees” published
> by the Harvard Business School
> <https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/PvtHCJ6xKQUlMRWpUG4Znm?domain=urldefense.com>
> originally coined the term “degree inflation” and it's probably the genesis
> for many of these efforts. More recently the same group published the emerging
> degree reset.
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> *From:* Davis, Bill (CS) <Bill.Davis at cs.ny.gov>
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> Dear Colleagues:
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>
> Employers are resetting minimum qualifications for a wide range of roles
> by dropping the requirement for a college degree for various professional
> positions. This is not only a private sector trend as states, including
> Pennsylvania
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> (click on link for Executive Order) and Maryland, have removed four-year
> degree requirements for thousands of jobs.
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> The State of New York is conducting a review of its titles to determine
> those where a degree can be an alternative requirement. We would appreciate
> your sharing anything that your state is doing to have  an experience
> pathway for careers typically requiring a  degree. Please respond to my
> email at Bill.Davis at cs.ny.gov by 3/31/2023.
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> Sincerely,
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> *Bill Davis*
> Manager Classification and Compensation
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